OverlanderJL
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Comparing teraflex to anything else is like comparing dog shit to a ribeye.
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MOPAR 2" Lift Review (on-road) -- IMPRESSIVE
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GrayBeard
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My dealership received 3, 2" suspension kits before any JLs arrived and was told it may be sometime before they get anymore. I was lucky enough to get one of those[emoji4]
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GrayBeard
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I also understand that only 10-12, 2" Mopar suspension lift were sent to the St. Louis area, not very many considering number of dealerships.
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notnalc68
That dude from Mississippi
Stick around. You’ll start to pick up a lot of things.
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Principal Skinr
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I bought my lift from Quadratec, who orders theirs through a dealership in PA, near their operation.
I flexed my suspension somewhat today with the swaybar disconnected and the bow stayed the same. The good news was that it didn't hit the bump stop while flexed or compressed. I was nowhere near full articulation, but it gave me some confidence that it won't touch that bump stop, even at the extremes.
I can't wait to get this thing off-road.
I flexed my suspension somewhat today with the swaybar disconnected and the bow stayed the same. The good news was that it didn't hit the bump stop while flexed or compressed. I was nowhere near full articulation, but it gave me some confidence that it won't touch that bump stop, even at the extremes.
I can't wait to get this thing off-road.
OverlanderJL
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Umm you want it to hit the bumpstop at full stuff.
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Agreed. If you're not hitting the bump stops, you're not fully compressed or something is binding.
I didn't ask him about steering wheel, but this guy knows what he's doing. He's been building Jeeps for a while. If I know him, he didn't touch anything without the wheels being straight and everything unbound.
JTCO
Meme King
I think he/she's saying that the spring didn't rub on the metal cup. In one picture earlier, the bow looked like the spring would rub the side of the bump stop.
If that's the case, glad to hear the spring bow didn't affect anything.
LOL! Well, I don't know your friend from Adam but if you say he's a guy who NEVER makes mistakes or never forgets to do something, who am I to argue with that. Fortunately, I'll be doing an install soon enough and I'll get to see all this with my own eyes. :yup:
:doh: Reading it that way makes more sense :crazyeyes:
I find it hard to believe on a 2 in lift that there would be spring bow . I've never seen that before because typically that height of lift will only move the axle over about 1/4 in. . I wonder where the spring started out ??
Hopefully , in post 38 you meant to say the drag link WILL NOT affect the position of the axle to the frame . It has no bearing on it at all . The track bar is responsible for that .
Hopefully , in post 38 you meant to say the drag link WILL NOT affect the position of the axle to the frame . It has no bearing on it at all . The track bar is responsible for that .
LOL!! If you say so. I'm new to all this Jeep stuff and so I'll defer to your expertise. :yup:
Remove the track bar on your Jeep and then have someone turn your steering wheel to one side and then the other. After you do this, tell me your drag link has no bearing at all. :thumb:
Back In Black
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Getting the Mopar 2" lift installed as we speak. Dropped it off this morning, and actually spoke to the tech who is doing the install. He said that he can't remember doing a lift where the spring didn't have at least a little bow. As Eddie has mentioned, when you have a soft spring rate, it sounds like it's virtually impossible to eliminate some bow. Not even sure if an aftermarket track bar could make it completely straight on both sides, but with only 2" lift, I am taking Eddie's advice and not even worrying about it. I will be out in some mud this coming weekend trying out the new lift with 35" MT's and seeing how "Mad Max" performs. If I pay for someones plane ticket, can you come and help me install a Warn Zeon 10s winch? I will include unlimited beverages of your choice, and cereal as that's all I am capable of "cooking"
Make sure they put the correct front spring perch per side (plastic cup that the bottom of the springs sit on on the correct side).
These are left/right dependent. If installed incorrectly you will have one side where the spring comes into contact with your swaybar link.
The bow is consistent throughout all of them...
I saw the spring bow in the pics I just find it hard to believe on a 2 in lift .It just depends on how the springs are engineered .
Now on the drag link issue the goal is not to rock the boat on the forum , but I would strongly recommend you keep your track bar hooked up when you are driving your Jeep LOL ! I do on my trucks and my jeep as they handle much better. I remember my drag link being the connecting link between the steering gear pitman arm and the knuckle when I last checked. Now if you want to counsel your followers different I'm good and will not challenge your expertise.
I don't really have an ego here but for the record my background is 35 verifiable years of steering and suspension repair in a large dealership , a short stint teaching at a community college and still do death wobble , steering and driveline issues all day everyday. No internet regurgitation here.
Hopefully we can all learn new things and I have found out a lot of information here on the JL .
I have to bow out of this thread because it appears to be above my pay grade. I think you might have lost a few on your geometry explanation of the Pythagorean theory !:beer:
Now on the drag link issue the goal is not to rock the boat on the forum , but I would strongly recommend you keep your track bar hooked up when you are driving your Jeep LOL ! I do on my trucks and my jeep as they handle much better. I remember my drag link being the connecting link between the steering gear pitman arm and the knuckle when I last checked. Now if you want to counsel your followers different I'm good and will not challenge your expertise.
I don't really have an ego here but for the record my background is 35 verifiable years of steering and suspension repair in a large dealership , a short stint teaching at a community college and still do death wobble , steering and driveline issues all day everyday. No internet regurgitation here.
Hopefully we can all learn new things and I have found out a lot of information here on the JL .
I have to bow out of this thread because it appears to be above my pay grade. I think you might have lost a few on your geometry explanation of the Pythagorean theory !:beer:
"Belief" isn't required when you can see clear as day that it exists. As you've noted, "it just depends on how the springs are engineered" and clearly, these have been engineered to be on the "soft" side of things.
:cheesy: Hey Mr. self-proclaimed expert of 35 verifiable years of steering and suspension repair in a large dealership and without an ego, you might want to slow down a bit and try reading things a bit more carefully. The member offcamber said that his pal removed his track bar in an effort to see if it'd make a difference. You know, because unless you install an adjustable track bar and set it to a longer length, a lift would pull a front axle toward the driver side of a Jeep. Of course, being the self-proclaimed expert of 35 verifiable years of steering and suspension repair in a large dealership and without an ego, you shouldn't need me to explain how a drag link connected to a steering gear pitman arm and the knuckle would PUSH the body of a Jeep to one side or the other if the steering wheel is turned. You know, because they're connected. But then, maybe you've never used this trick to help align a track bar joint to the bolt hole on an axle mount before.
But once again, I'm new to all this Jeep stuff and I've never seen or heard of a self-proclaimed expert of 35 verifiable years of steering and suspension repair in a large dealership and without an ego ever do anything wrong before.
Hopefully I can learn new things from your 35 verifiable years of steering and suspension repair in a large dealership. :thumb:
JTCO
Meme King
Go back and read. I'd be happy to explain everything here in one post but I've only been doing this for about 20 verifiable years so I'll let you decide for yourself.
Anything beyond 20 years (22 to be exact) and Wranglers were running leaf springs. :crazyeyes:
:cheesy: In other words, you understand the point I was making. Good thing you don't have an ego that'd get in the way of admitting as much. :thumb:
JTCO
Meme King
Just so it's clear to anyone else reading this, no one so far has said to drive a Jeep without a track bar. A member mentioned that they removed the track bar while the vehicle was parked, just to see if the coil bow went away while vehicle was still parked.