Eddie, that’s twice that you have said that I said that coils are engineered to match the shocks. That’s the furthest thing from the truth.
. What I said was that “shocks are engineered to work in harmony with your lift.”
If you say so. I simply have NOT seen evidence or proof that most shocks that are included with a lift are engineered to do anything other than complete a kit it and make it more salable. Hence, why you can by the exact same Fox, King or even Rancho shock a la carte and use it on whatever lift you want.
If a lift mfg is selling a kit that includes shocks and compares the specs of shock style A vs shock style B and determines that A works better with the coils they are using, they have just “engineered” a better solution of their coil matched with shock A vs shock B.
The key word here is "IF". Unless you've got proof to back this up, seems to me this is nothing more than just an assumption.
“Engineering” certainly is a very loose term and the extent of engineering can vary from my scenario above to the other end of the spectrum where someone like Dynatrac will actually do more advanced testing and R&D to make sure the customer is getting the best match possible.
Yes, it really is. Fact of the matter is that the best R&D always comes from seat time and over different terrain - NOT through numbers. At least, in my opinion anyway.
My point was simply that if you buy a lift and shocks separately you might be able to improve the ride with a different shock.
Well, if that really was your point, I apologize for missing it. I would agree that a different set of shocks "might" improve a ride but that's far from making it "good" or truly "comfortable".
As you mentioned in a different response, an adjustable shock is a great idea to find a spring to shock “harmony” level that you like.
Actually, what I said was I would "give a set of Rancho 9000's a try" being that the OP had "already wasted his money on an expensive set of shocks". I also said they may not be the sexiest shock around but they are "affordable" and "adjustable" and that would allow him set them to whatever will "
help make his ride better". So that it isn't missed, I specifically stated that "
so long as his coils are't stiff as hell, most people I know are able to find a setting that they like with 9000's". In other words, ride quality is still incumbent on how the coils feel and "most people" isn't everyone. Again, ride quality is 100% subjective. :yup:
With all that said, I run a JK that's running an EVO DTD on long arms and dialed in exactly the way I want. Pretty much everything I've ridden on since or before falls short of it and in a lot cases, by a long shot. I can only hope to get my JL riding as nice someday.