Awesome news unless you live in Kalifornia![]()
I’m sure everyone won’t agree, but this is probably great news, for the Wrangler, as we know it.
E.P.A. Prepares to Roll Back Rules Requiring Cars to Be Cleaner and More Efficient
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/29/c...-rollback.html
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Awesome news unless you live in Kalifornia![]()
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This makes me happy. Hope it works out.
You're right, we don't all agree. Much as I love my Jeep, if I had to choose between being able to crawl around on the rocks and leaving a decent planet for the future generations it wouldn't be a very hard choice.
BUT we don't have to make any such choice. It is well within the capabilities of the auto industry, even FCA, to product an all-electric "Jeep". If properly designed, it could be FAR BETTER for off-roading than anything currently on the market. (Tesla has already shown that an all electric sedan or an all electric SUV can blow the doors off the competition in the luxury market. They're well on their way to doing so in the mid-range sedan market, too.)
Think about it: get rid of the entire drive train (gas tank, engine, transmission, xfer case, drive shafts, differentials) and just put one motor on each wheel and a big battery under the floor (with a bit of armor). Very low center of gravity. (Get rid of the brakes, too, if the regulators will allow it; regenerative braking is fully capable of locking the wheels on any surface.) That's a LOT fewer parts to break. Software would control the torque to each wheel independently, no need for lockers. And the available torque from an electric motor makes a diesel look wimpy (top of the line Teslas have over 900 lb-ft) and it's all there at ZERO rpm. Plus the power delivery is super smooth and controllable, no waiting for the engine to rev up, no worries about being in the right gear, it just goes. It's hard to describe how much nicer an EV feels if you haven't driven one. And while that's nice on the highway it would be even nicer on the rocks.
I don't expect FCA's upcoming plug-in Jeep to be anything near that good. They'll probably just put an electric motor in a Wrangler chassis and probably keep the gas engine, too, making the whole system doubly complex. But as soon as someone builds an off-road capable vehicle designed from the ground up and an EV, I'll be first in line to buy it.
No thanks. I wish Jeeps had a V8 option. That’s what’s in my Grand Cherokee.
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I dunno. My CJ3B is almost 65 years old and still running the original 134 Hurricane F-Head I-4 Engine. I turn the key and she starts up. If his battery were dead, I could push start him. Everything is so low tech, I could trouble shoot just about anything I needed to. Conversely, the Renegade Trailhawk I owned was super modern and full of cool electronics that managed how it drove. It was great while it worked but when I got a check engine light on the trail, I no longer had 4WD. Kind of a bummer being that being that I was still on the trail and didn't have a clue as to what I could do to make it work again. The more plumbing you have, the easier it is to stop up the drain and out on the trail, less tech is what I would prefer but then, I know that'll never happen and really, that's just me.
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JET LI / 2018 Bright White Jeep JL Wrangler Rubicon Unlimited
MOBY DICK / 2007 Stone White JK Rubicon Unlimited
CALAMITY JANE / 1974 Jetset Blue Metallic Jeep CJ-5 Renegade
RUSTY / 1972 White/Blue Jeep J2000 Pick-Up Truck
EMMA / 1969 White Kaiser Jeepster Commando C101
PAPPY / 1954 Yellow Willys CJ3B
This is JLWrangler.com not the Prius forum hippy. What you drive will have hardly any effect on that crap. Stop buying anything at all so it puts all manufacturers of anything out of business and that will help more. And where do you think your power comes from for your electric car? Let me guess, all solar right?
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2012 Jeep Jk - 37’s
2012 Jeep JKU Rubicon - 40’s
1975 Jeep DJ5
Wind, silly. I’ve seen all those wind turbines, near you.
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You mean the ones that catch on fire, aren’t on or don’t work? Yeah those are great.
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2012 Jeep Jk - 37’s
2012 Jeep JKU Rubicon - 40’s
1975 Jeep DJ5