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    Stage 4 vs Stage 4 Overland vs Long Arm Kit

    Alright guys, Iím going to lift my JLUR 3.5Ē and put on 37Ē wheels, that at least I know I want. Iíve pretty much made up my mind that I wanna run Kings shocks with a Evo lift kit. I wanna see what your input is on the Stage 4 and Stage 4 Overland compared to their Long Arm Kit. Once I saw the LA kit, I wanted it and recently Iíve been doubting if itís the route to go. I know the Stage 4 is a great kit but what about the Overland brackets, they mimic in a way what the LA does by dropping the LCA down a bit from what I saw but Iím worried about that bracket getting hung up while rock crawling. I know they said that the Overland is more for off road and road use, and not for hard off road crawling. I saw someone mention that you donít need to go LA if itís not a lift higher than 4Ē since the JL arms are decently sized. So what do yíall think Stage 4, Stage 4 Overland, or do LA? The application of the Jeep will be that itíll be a daily driver to work and on the weekend hit trails, go to Moab once a year or so, hit trails like Holy Cross here in CO, go to Ouray and do wheeling out there. I know this is a lot but even after reading up I donít have a warm and fuzzy on what I want before I spend serious money on this build so all of your help is be appreciated.

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    Welcome to JL Wrangler. Either one of those kits is a decent chunk of cash, so me personally, I would spend the extra 1300 for the long arm kit but that's just me. But with the long arm kit, the labor is going to be a lot more intensive or costly. Either kit will work what you said you need it for, but it would suck to spend 5000 grand and then hate yourself for years for not paying a little bit more and getting the long arm. Jeeps tend to work that way, lol.
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    Stage 4 vs Stage 4 Overland vs Long Arm Kit

    Weíre running the stage 4 overland kit with coilovers on our Gladiator and itís extremely smooth, more so than stock. I never imagined Iíd be able to lift a vehicle 6.5Ē and say it rides better now, but it really does.

    WJCO is correct in that the parts arenít much more, but the labor is. IMHO I donít think youíll be disappointed either way. Also, Mel is running the same stage 4 kit on their Gladiator build and it rock crawled just fine or as far as I could tell, the suspension was never a limiting factor.


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    Getting solid feedback from these guys ^^^

    If you can afford it, I would highly recommend getting the long arms. It'll correct your suspension geometry and with high clearance brackets.

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    Iím currently running the stage 4 enforcer kit with the King coilovers. It drives great and donít have any complaints, but Iíll be getting the long arms here soon to allow for some more travel. You wonít be sad with either kit as the ride is great!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bsimon187 View Post
    .... but Iíll be getting the long arms here soon to allow for some more travel....
    Do long arms allow more travel on the JLs ? They never have in the past on other Jeep models.
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    Stage 4 vs Stage 4 Overland vs Long Arm Kit

    You hit it right in the nail WJCO, the only fear of getting the Stage 4 is that Iíll still be wanting or needing the long arm kit afterwards. Itíll be a couple months for me to buy all the parts but Iím sure when I get it installed itíll be worth the wait. Thank you for being welcoming guys🤙🏽


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    Quote Originally Posted by WJCO View Post
    Do long arms allow more travel on the JLs ? They never have in the past on other Jeep models.
    This ^^^^

    Long arms will NOT give you more travel. All they do is correct suspension geometry.

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    @StormBreakerTheJL - I'm running EVO Bolt-On King coilovers as well as EVO High Clearance Long Arms on my 2018 JLUR. Just hit me up if you ever want to get together and check them out. BTW I have a feeling that most people don't know what Stormbreaker/Jarnbjorn, or for that matter, what MjŲlnir is. Let me know if I'm not on the right track. LOL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WJCO View Post
    Do long arms allow more travel on the JLs ? They never have in the past on other Jeep models.
    So based on EVO's website- with the Enforcer Pro you are getting 11.5 to 12" of travel and then going with the long arm kit it allows 14-14.5 " of travel. That is what my statement was based off of.

    LA Kit: When combining our JLU High Clearance Long Arm kit with the EVO MFG JL Front and Rear NV2514 Coilover kits we create the High Clearance Long Arm PRO. This combination of improved suspension geometry through the EVO MFG JLU High Clearance Long Arm and increased shock travel through our JL Bolt-on NV2514 coilovers, allows you to un-limit the kit and run full shock length yielding 14.5” front wheel travel and 14” rear wheel travel. Suspension cycling the most properly tuned wheel travel is the name of the game.

    Enforcer Stage 4 kit: The JL Enforcer PRO Kits achieve control arm limited 11.5/12” of wheel travel with only 3-5” (lift height is adjustable) of lift and most wheel and tire combination will require a backspacing of 3.75” or smaller. Necessary equipment is included to convert including brake line provisions, bump stop extensions, swaybar end links, limit straps and hardware. All Bracketry is laser

    Maybe its just because it opens the kit up more, but that is a copy/paste from EVO's site.

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