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    Quote Originally Posted by Mgchiro View Post
    Shouldn't it still turn normal on dry pavement? Does it not turn normal in 4H? I just assumed it would. You still have to make sharp turns in snowy weather, right?

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    like others have mentioned, 4H is not the same as all-wheel drive

    4H provides more traction simultaneously to the wheels and in doing so requires some slippage. When using 4H each wheel spins at a similar speed and that is why you feel the binding.

    All-wheel drive, the wheels spin at different speeds which make for smoother turns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mgchiro View Post
    Shouldn't it still turn normal on dry pavement? Does it not turn normal in 4H? I just assumed it would. You still have to make sharp turns in snowy weather, right?
    No, it should not turn normal on dry pavement. Yes, sometimes you do have to make sharp turns in snowy weather. Do not confuse selectable four-wheel drive with all-wheel drive. My wife is looking at the Sahara/Moab JLs due to the availability of Selec-Trac on those models. If the Selec-Trac transfer case was available on JLR/JLURs, then she would probably already have one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by olram30 View Post
    4h is fine for snow, ice, dirt etc. That hop you're feeling on dry pavement when you turn in 4h isn't good for your u joints.

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    Thanks for the response. I just thought it would still turn normal in 4H. Was surprised to see that it doesn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeeep View Post
    like others have mentioned, 4H is not the same as all-wheel drive

    4H provides more traction simultaneously to the wheels and in doing so requires some slippage. When using 4H each wheel spins at a similar speed and that is why you feel the binding.

    All-wheel drive, the wheels spin at different speeds which make for smoother turns.
    Thank you for explaining that. I never knew there was a difference between 4wd vs. Awd. Seems like Awd is better then. Is it not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by doubletapdaddy View Post
    No, it should not turn normal on dry pavement. Yes, sometimes you do have to make sharp turns in snowy weather. Do not confuse selectable four-wheel drive with all-wheel drive. My wife is looking at the Sahara/Moab JLs due to the availability of Selec-Trac on those models. If the Selec-Trac transfer case was available on JLR/JLURs, then she would probably already have one.
    Thank you for explaining that. I am surprised the Rubicon doesn't have that feature for the money it costs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mgchiro View Post
    Thank you for explaining that. I never knew there was a difference between 4wd vs. Awd. Seems like Awd is better then. Is it not?

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    Are we talking about daily driving or going off road?

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    Quote Originally Posted by olram30 View Post
    Are we talking about daily driving or going off road?

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    Daily driving...I wanted to switch to 4H because we are supposed to get 6-8 inches of snow. Didn't realize it would drive so differently when turning when trying to turn. I had to turn gradually due to rubbing. I decided to switch it back to 2H.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mgchiro View Post
    Thank you for explaining that. I am surprised the Rubicon doesn't have that feature for the money it costs.

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    Know the features of a vehicle BEFORE you buy one. People buy the Rubicon for features like 4WD, locking differentials and sway bar disconnect. Not the Sticker on the hood. If you donít know what 4WD is, then you need to research the other things I mentioned and take a look at the owners manual.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mgchiro View Post
    Thank you for explaining that. I never knew there was a difference between 4wd vs. Awd. Seems like Awd is better then. Is it not?

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    All wheel drive is good for cars that don't leave the road much but need to drive in snow and ice.

    All wheel drive sucks off road for more reasons than I care to type about

    Quote Originally Posted by Mgchiro View Post
    Thank you for explaining that. I am surprised the Rubicon doesn't have that feature for the money it costs.

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    What you are calling a feature is not. It would ruin the whole point of a Rubicon.


    Quote Originally Posted by Mgchiro View Post
    Daily driving...I wanted to switch to 4H because we are supposed to get 6-8 inches of snow. Didn't realize it would drive so differently when turning when trying to turn. I had to turn gradually due to rubbing. I decided to switch it back to 2H.

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    Put it in 4Hi, when it snows. Not just because it is going to snow.
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    Nothing is rubbing, itís just one wheel trying to go slower than the other. It may feel like rubbing or even the brakes being applied on one side . Wait for the snow flakes to hit the ground and stick, then use 4wd Hi and your wheel will slip you wonít even notice. Remember the vehicle feel and performance will be different in 4 Hi in snow . Go snow wheeling


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