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    Bumper Selection: Stubby, Recessed Winch, OEM Fogs, Bull Bar

    Hey everyone! Iím sorry if this is a repeat topic. Did some searching and found some helpful posts but not quite exactly what Iím searching for.

    I saw Eddyís great video on the LOD Destroyer stubby bumper - and eventually I landed on the LOD Signature series stubby front bumper because it has a more recessed winch mount location, I believe. I would really like to pull the trigger soon, but want to see if there might be another option before I do.

    Iím not 100% sold on the LOD Signature, still, though - Iíd like a slightly more aggressive bull bar like whatís on the DV8 FS-15 or even Artec Industries Nighthawk.

    Iím curious if anyone has any other ideas to consider or look at.

    1. Stubby
    2. Recessed winch mount
    3. OEM LED fog compatible
    4. No light bars/slots for light bars that will look funny without light bars in them
    5. Moderately aggressive bull bar (single hoop but mid-grill up to the top of the hood)

    For reference, other options Iíve considered are:
    ēDV8 FS-15 (no recessed winch mount, supposed install options with JL)
    ēPoison Spyder Crawler - no recessed winch mount, bull bar may be a bit low for my taste
    ēArtec Industries Nighthawk - really like this, but no recessed winch mount (and wish it was painted already for the price
    ēGenRight - no fog holes (plus, not sure if I HAVE to have aluminum, in which case the cost may not be worth it)
    ēWarn Elite Stubby - no spots for fogs

    Iím sure there are more I had considered, but I canít remember them all - really itís down to the LOD Signature, Poison Spyder, DV8 FS-18, and Artec... with the LOD leading because technically it ticks the boxes, but Iím a bit nervous that the bull bar wonít be aggressive enough for me.

    Thanks in advance for any recommendations!


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    The only option which sort of qualifies is the poison spyder, which I think allows you to have a recessed winch and ridid industries cube foglights. I haven't seen any that have a recessed winch AND fogs because Im assuming there is no room for both.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NFRs2000NYC View Post
    The only option which sort of qualifies is the poison spyder, which I think allows you to have a recessed winch and ridid industries cube foglights. I haven't seen any that have a recessed winch AND fogs because Im assuming there is no room for both.
    Good point! The Poison Spyder Bruiser would allow that. The Crawler was what I had been considering since it fits OEM fogs, but it of course does not have a recessed housing.

    I am not a fan of cube lights or the added ďside barsĒ from the bumper to the bull bar (what are those called?) unfortunately, so that eliminates the bruiser.

    #TooPicky :-)


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    Check out the Hauk predator bumper. Downside is it gets pricey for certain add-ons. http://haukoffroad.com/bumpers/jl-front-bumper/

    It's not OEM fog compatible but the fogs offered are round and it has a bigger bumper bar, I also had a similar checklist for bumper consideration. I like the Poison Spider's lower bull bar and it seems to be a stronger design, I'm not so dead set against the cube fogs either. I wish companies would provide an inside shot of their bumpers so I could tell if the fog spots could be modified to fit lights of some sort, it'd make deciding so much easier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tx_ovrlnd View Post
    Check out the Hauk predator bumper. Downside is it gets pricey for certain add-ons. http://haukoffroad.com/bumpers/jl-front-bumper/

    It's not OEM fog compatible but the fogs offered are round and it has a bigger bumper bar, I also had a similar checklist for bumper consideration. I like the Poison Spider's lower bull bar and it seems to be a stronger design, I'm not so dead set against the cube fogs either. I wish companies would provide an inside shot of their bumpers so I could tell if the fog spots could be modified to fit lights of some sort, it'd make deciding so much easier.
    Iím with you! The Predator is so close - just wish there was some beveling or angling at the edges of the bumper. Itís a bit ďabruptĒ or ďblockyĒ feeling to me on the ends. I do love it though. The price is also a bit crazy, so itís hard for me to justify the cost when it isnít ďperfectĒ for me (if that makes sense).


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    Quote Originally Posted by aug0211 View Post
    Iím with you! The Predator is so close - just wish there was some beveling or angling at the edges of the bumper. Itís a bit ďabruptĒ or ďblockyĒ feeling to me on the ends. I do love it though. The price is also a bit crazy, so itís hard for me to justify the cost when it isnít ďperfectĒ for me (if that makes sense).

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    I get the desire for the perfect bumper, buy it once and have no regrets. Maybe find someone selling a take-off steel front bumper and purchase a JCR add-on bar? There are two types, stinger and pre-runner. This should meet all your requirements as it follows the body lines being a factory piece, retains the factory fogs lol, allows for recessed winch mounting, can be made stubby by removing the wings, and the bars don't have any light mount tabs that I could see. Be careful with chasing perfection.

    https://www.jcroffroad.com/product/JLBmp/JLHR-T-PC.html (pre-runner)
    https://www.jcroffroad.com/product/JLBmp/JLHR-S-PC.html (stinger)

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    Quote Originally Posted by tx_ovrlnd View Post
    I get the desire for the perfect bumper, buy it once and have no regrets. Maybe find someone selling a take-off steel front bumper and purchase a JCR add-on bar? There are two types, stinger and pre-runner. This should meet all your requirements as it follows the body lines being a factory piece, retains the factory fogs lol, allows for recessed winch mounting, can be made stubby by removing the wings, and the bars don't have any light mount tabs that I could see. Be careful with chasing perfection.

    https://www.jcroffroad.com/product/JLBmp/JLHR-T-PC.html (pre-runner)
    https://www.jcroffroad.com/product/JLBmp/JLHR-S-PC.html (stinger)
    ďChasing perfectionĒ - you are spot on. Iím horrible about product selection. I get very picky with things, tend to know exactly what I want, and then do a horrible job of compromising.

    If you think Iím bad picking a bumper for my Jeep - you should see the poor medical team and sales teams dealing with me right now as my wife and I select which brand cochlear
    implants to go with for our daughter

    Back on topic - this might by my new favorite option. The price of the OEM bumper kills me, but it may be worth it. Wish I could find a takeoff from someone who go steel bumpers but didnít want them. Thank you for sharing this option!!! Excited about it!


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    Quote Originally Posted by aug0211 View Post
    ďChasing perfectionĒ - you are spot on. Iím horrible about product selection. I get very picky with things, tend to know exactly what I want, and then do a horrible job of compromising.

    If you think Iím bad picking a bumper for my Jeep - you should see the poor medical team and sales teams dealing with me right now as my wife and I select which brand cochlear
    implants to go with for our daughter

    Back on topic - this might by my new favorite option. The price of the OEM bumper kills me, but it may be worth it. Wish I could find a takeoff from someone who go steel bumpers but didnít want them. Thank you for sharing this option!!! Excited about it!


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    Iím guilty of chasing perfection as well, my wife has become used to it thankfully as I usually research and compare specs in depth versus impulse buy and regret. I want to future proof the build when I actually go to buy the Jeep.
    Right now Iím torn between sport S to upgrade as I go or start at the base rubi which has great starting potential; Iím unsure of my future in rock crawling but I really like the high clearance fenders, strong wider axles and 4.10 gear ratios. Luckily I get to see how these first few year releases do in real testing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tx_ovrlnd View Post
    I get the desire for the perfect bumper, buy it once and have no regrets. Maybe find someone selling a take-off steel front bumper and purchase a JCR add-on bar? There are two types, stinger and pre-runner. This should meet all your requirements as it follows the body lines being a factory piece, retains the factory fogs lol, allows for recessed winch mounting, can be made stubby by removing the wings, and the bars don't have any light mount tabs that I could see. Be careful with chasing perfection.

    https://www.jcroffroad.com/product/JLBmp/JLHR-T-PC.html (pre-runner)
    https://www.jcroffroad.com/product/JLBmp/JLHR-S-PC.html (stinger)
    Took your advice - moving forward with this option.

    Ordered the winch and winch mounting hardware tonight. Hoping to order the steel bumper tomorrow.

    One thing I canít seem to confirm is whether my OEM LED fogs out of my plastic Rubi bumper will mount up in the steel bumper or not.

    Iím also hoping there might be other options for the bars. The JCR might be fine, it just seems a bit narrow to me/not as beefy as Iím hoping for.


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    Quote Originally Posted by aug0211 View Post
    Took your advice - moving forward with this option.

    Ordered the winch and winch mounting hardware tonight. Hoping to order the steel bumper tomorrow.

    One thing I canít seem to confirm is whether my OEM LED fogs out of my plastic Rubi bumper will mount up in the steel bumper or not.

    Iím also hoping there might be other options for the bars. The JCR might be fine, it just seems a bit narrow to me/not as beefy as Iím hoping for.


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    I was looking for something similar. My main thing was to have the winch recessed. Thought I really needed something with the fog lights, but honestly with the LED light package the headlights are enough. So I went this route.

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    Decided tire clearance and good approach was most important.


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